Thread: finding a better airbrush

Originally Posted by Gahau

I that case... TRUST ME
Get a BETTER BRUSH NOW
Since you have a testers brush already, you might get disappointed with that 20 bucks brush I am not saying its bad...
But save up your money or what for Xmas and add an extra 50 =)
Isn't the whole point of the thread, because you wanted a better brush?



Let us know

@ janmillen,
Don't you have some Master's brush?
How are those? they range from 40-50 right?

Yes I am using the Master series and think they are great for the price. I was on a budget, like most everyone here. Plus, I didn't know what the heck to buy for sure. I wish I had read more about airbrushes and compressors, at this site, before I jumped in, especially the compressors. But I bought a kit and it got me going. There will always be things you can always say "I SHOULD HAVE". From my experience with the Masters, I have been pleased with them. But, I have only used them and never have used some of the more popular ones mentioned in this forum.

Iwata is a big favorite here, but there are price differences in them too. In My Opinion a Master makes a great start up airbrush. Don even did a lesson using a G-44, which he commented was a pretty good airbrush for the price. You have to respect his opinions, because he paints mainly with Iwata, so he knows the difference. I say start with a Master airbrush, learn, then purchase a more expensive one. Like most things, price does matter.

I will mention I'm saving up to purchase a Grex air brush. They are advertisers on the forum and I hear great things about the Grex tools. I will then be in a position to say, In My Opinion, how much better they are than a Master. I never see any used Grex on E-bay, so maybe that's a testament to how good they are????

But I don't think you can go wrong with a Master as a start up airbrush, especially for the price.

Remember; The only difference between Men and Boys, is the price and size of our toys.

Jan

Originally Posted by wade7632

u say dont buy that one or not off ebay

Don't buy it LOL

Gahau,

Grex has been a maker of many air tool products. They have a very good name in that area. They have a new line of airbrushes, which seem to be high quality. I'm not really sure how long they have been selling airbrushes. If you look on the top of the page, just click on the flying logo. They have some good looking features. I have heard from a few users, from another forum, that say they really like them. They also use other name brand airbrushes, so they do have some knowledge to give comparison opinions. One even went as far to say he felt the XN model was as good as, if not a bit better than his Iwata HP-C. That was his opinion. The only thing that Grex can't do, is you can't interchange nozzles and needles between similar models. So if you get a gravity feed with a .02mm, it won't change out with a model that uses a .03mm. That is what they told me, when I asked the question. Not really sure why??

I have been using the Masters and have been satisfied. So now that I have been doing this for awhile and I felt I wanted to move up in airbrushes. The Grex just sounded very nice and I'll never know, unless I try one.

Jan

Originally Posted by janmillen

Gahau,

Grex has been a maker of many air tool products. They have a very good name in that area. They have a new line of airbrushes, which seem to be high quality. I'm not really sure how long they have been selling airbrushes. If you look on the top of the page, just click on the flying logo. They have some good looking features. I have heard from a few users, from another forum, that say they really like them. They also use other name brand airbrushes, so they do have some knowledge to give comparison opinions. One even went as far to say he felt the XN model was as good as, if not a bit better than his Iwata HP-C. That was his opinion. The only thing that Grex can't do, is you can't interchange nozzles and needles between similar models. So if you get a gravity feed with a .02mm, it won't change out with a model that uses a .03mm. That is what they told me, when I asked the question. Not really sure why??

I have been using the Masters and have been satisfied. So now that I have been doing this for awhile and I felt I wanted to move up in airbrushes. The Grex just sounded very nice and I'll never know, unless I try one.

Jan

Man... I want one NOW LOL
Well I just got the HP C +, an upgrade from the BCS
=( No new AB for me for a little while

Hey guys,

If I was to buy a Grex airbrush, this is the one I would buy no questions asked !
From what I've read and heard, The XG would definitely be my first choice. Its seems to be the best all around brush for the versatility and money
They seem to go on average for a $129. Us, which in my opinion is not a bad price for what your getting.


Genesis.XG - Double Action Top Gravity Fed Airbrush
The Genesis.XG is designed to be the workhorse of airbrushes; ideal for all applications, including automotive, fine art, murals and make-up. The large reservoir is easy to clean, holds more paint for longer spraying sessions and useful for mixing custom colors. From fine lines to broad strokes, the XG is an all-around kind of brush.
Features:
- Cutting edge design specifically for precise control of fine detailed work.
- Preset handle for precise paint volume control.
- Solvent proof teflon seals allows use of any medium.
- Internally mixed for improved atomization.
- Precisely machined stainless steel nozzle and needle.
- Larger diameter nozzle threads for improved centering & stronger tightening.
- Durable heavy nickel chrome plated housing.
- Convenient to clean design.
- Short passageway from cup to nozzle for responsive feel.
- Accept oils, gouches, urethanes, enamels, lacquers, acrylics, dyes, inks, & more.
- Adaptable with major brands of airbrush jars and/or color cups.
Specifications:
Type:
Double Action
Fluid Nozzle:
0.3 mm
Feed Type:
Top Gravity
Fluid Capacity:
7mL (1/4 oz.)
Spray Width:
Hair Line to 25mL (1")
Weight:
120g (4.2 oz.)
Length:
150mm (5.9")
Oper. Pressure:
14 ~ 80psi (0.96 ~ 5.52bar)
Applications:
Illustration, Fine art, Murals, Automotive, Cosmetics, Figurines, Woodworks...

Spray On

Gio

Gahau,

Don't get greedy. That HP-C will be fine for a while. Remember, Christmas is coming!

Gio,

XG gravity and the XB siphon are the two I'm looking at. I have this thing for the bottom feeds. The new XBi has a great new feature for cleaning between colors, but I'm not too sure I want the .05mm needle and can't swing two of them at once. As I mentioned, according to Grex, I couldn't switch the regular XB .03mm into the new XBi. They look the same, more or less, so I'm not sure why.

Jan,

Since you already own one siphon feed airbrush, why don't you go for the XG gravity feed, this way you'll have one of each. The best of both worlds so to speak

Spray On

Gio

Originally Posted by Gioart

Jan,

Since you already own one siphon feed airbrush, why don't you go for the XG gravity feed, this way you'll have one of each. The best of both worlds so to speak

Spray On

Gio

Hey...
That's my setup lol
Here is what I learned
My very first brush was a iwata copy cat (did not know at the time of purchase, heck I did not ANYTHING at the time of purchase) and let me tell you the quality of the brush was VERY similar to an iwata... it a 0.2mm got it for under 30! NEW (a WHILE back in France)
It had a small cup that hold very little paint... and at that time changing colors was a pain (in my opinion at the time)...
Well... several years later got the Iwata BCS (Bottom Feed) Requires higher psi and it wasted a lot of paint! More for t-shirt and stuff kinda of work.
I now found that AB with cups (Gravity Feed) are a LOT FASTER to clean! a few drop of solvent, back flush, check needle, good to go!
But the draw back is the amount of paint it hold... Actually with a cup as big has the on the HP C+ I should be fine even for shirts. But its a 0.3mm